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Selling smoked ribs - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby Vic. » 23 May 2011, 17:26

As a bit of fun last night I done a basic calculation on selling spare ribs on my smoker. It can hold 8 racks (approx 80 ribs), cost me 50p/rib and even if I sold them at £1/rib, I would only be making 25p/rib......the other 25p/rib is taken in by fuel and spices....

I was wandering how you guys who sell smoked stuff at shows etc, manage to make a profit?
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Re: Selling smoked food - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby All Weather Griller » 23 May 2011, 17:32

I have had similiar thoughts on Time vs Effort vs Overheads vs Profit and just never bothered. I think the key is in economies of scale and yield.

A buddy of mine told me:

"You can figure on getting a yield of about 75% on butts. So, 20 uncooked pounds will yield about 15 cooked pounds. With whole chickens you only yield about 25%. So 20 pounds of uncooked chicken will yield 5 pounds of cooked chicken. Just take all of the side dishes into consideration and then plan accordingly. If you have a lot of side dishes you only need 5-7 ounces of meat per person. 3 good sized racks of ribs will feed 8-12 people

For a wedding of 100 I'm actually cooking about 27 lbs. of pork and 80 lbs. of chicken. The wedding is for 100. This will yield about 6 1/2 oz. per person."
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Postby Vic. » 23 May 2011, 17:36

organised events like weddings etc seem to be the way to go, unless you charge higher prices to the general public at holiday events, etc.

I was only calculating ribs and theres not much profit from them.....need to invent a rib burger, but watch your teeth on the bone:lol:
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Re: Selling smoked food - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby adm » 23 May 2011, 17:37

Vic. wrote:As a bit of fun last night I done a basic calculation on selling spare ribs on my smoker. It can hold 8 racks (approx 80 ribs), cost me 50p/rib and even if I sold them at £1/rib, I would only be making 25p/rib......the other 25p/rib is taken in by fuel and spices....

I was wandering how you guys who sell smoked stuff at shows etc, manage to make a profit?


How come the ribs cost you 50p each? That's a hellish expensive price for them......even Waitrose sell racks of ribs for about £2 a go - and they are cheaper than that from my local butcher.

Half a rack should be 6 ribs (or 7 from the smaller end) and I'd guess you could sell that for a fiver - so you should be able to turn a £4 profit on a half rack before you take time, effort, sides, fuel and equipment amortisation into account.
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Re: Selling smoked food - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby Vic. » 23 May 2011, 17:40

I thought I was getting a reasonable price adm, these are meaty spares, around £2.80/kilo
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Re: Selling smoked ribs - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby joker smoker » 23 May 2011, 17:54

none of the ribs that I've ever seen in supermarkets at around £2 a rack are worth cooking. you're just using up your rubs and fuel to cook and season a bunch of bones.
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Re: Selling smoked food - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby Vic. » 23 May 2011, 17:57

All Weather Griller wrote:A buddy of mine told me:

"You can figure on getting a yield of about 75% on butts. So, 20 uncooked pounds will yield about 15 cooked pounds. With whole chickens you only yield about 25%. So 20 pounds of uncooked chicken will yield 5 pounds of cooked chicken. Just take all of the side dishes into consideration and then plan accordingly. If you have a lot of side dishes you only need 5-7 ounces of meat per person. 3 good sized racks of ribs will feed 8-12 people


The filler, sides, baps and especialy the pork butt has to be on the menu. I would need to treat it like a chinese restaurant, 'starters, mains, etc'
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Re: Selling smoked ribs - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby crphillips » 23 May 2011, 18:59

I bought my first ribs last week or so. 2 full racks of pork ribs from a quality local butcher with plenty of meat on them. Around 12 ribs per rack. £5.
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Re: Selling smoked ribs - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby Vic. » 23 May 2011, 19:03

crphillips wrote:I bought my first ribs last week or so. 2 full racks of pork ribs from a quality local butcher with plenty of meat on them. Around 12 ribs per rack. £5.


I pay around £5.50 for meaty spares.......considering the last few are small I evened it up at 10/rack, 'cause if you throw in an extra rib to the customers they'll come back to you ;)
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Re: Selling smoked food - found it wasn't worth my time

Postby adm » 23 May 2011, 19:44

Vic. wrote:I thought I was getting a reasonable price adm, these are meaty spares, around £2.80/kilo


My missus came back from Waitrose on Saturday with four surprise racks of baby backs which averaged out about £2.20 a rack. They were surprisingly good - so much so that I'll stick them on the regular Ocado order. Plenty of meat for BBs and nice and fresh too. Too much packaging though - plastic wrapped and then vac packed on top.

Personally, I normally get untrimmed (and very meaty) spares from my local butcher. I've known him for 30 years or so, so I don't know what he charges me per kilo, but they're no more than a couple of quid a rack. Maybe he's just doing me a favour (as I do spend an awful lot of money there...) and if I wanted them in commercial volumes the price would go up.

I'd have thought for selling them commercially though, you'd want baby backs - it seems to me that that's what the general public would prefer for convenience sake (and probably thinks of when they think "ribs"). I like the untrimmed spares myself, but I can see that all the cartilage and extra fat might put joe public off.
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